Kiso Suzuki Acoustic Guitars: W65 HS front detail

Monday, July 7, 2008

W65 HS front detail

4 comments:

Anonymous said...: Hi Thomas
I have the same hummingbird but it is a twelve string. Had it for decades, had it refurbished by a JBR guitars. You can see a photo on jbrguitars.com. lovely instrument. I hade the tuners replaced, along with the bridge, and nut it now has a passive Ovation pick-up built in. Jim did a fantastic job, I would like to find out more on the construction of the instrument..

Billy; February 2, 2009 at 6:32 PM
jarrod said...: w65 h has parallogram celluloid inlays , w65hs has square celluloid inlays , the top or soundboard is 3 ply cross laminated spruce , the back and sides are nato / Indonesian mahogany also laminated , the headstock logo is a cf martin and co copy whilst of course the guitar is a copy of the 1965 Gibson hummingbird which is where the suzukis get their model number from .; May 29, 2015 at 1:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi Jarrod, I have the same guitar, but it is acoustic/electric. Did they make such a thing or did this guitar get a make-over at some point? It was given to me as a gift about 20 years ago...Jacky; August 15, 2015 at 12:44 AM
Anonymous said...: Does anyone know if the Suzuki W65 guitar has a truss? Couldn't find it and I need to straighten the neck.; September 23, 2017 at 12:57 PM

Some History of Kiso Suzuki....

(submit pictures by emailing suzukiguitars@gmail.com
Thanks!)

Kiso Suzuki is the name of a now-defunct guitar company from the Kisofukushima region of Japan. This region is well known for it's mountains and trees, and the lure of the region with it's valuable lumber brought craftsman to the area - one such interest was, of course, guitar-making.Kiso Suzuki and Nagoya Suzuki were one company before the war - a 3-factory company started by Masakichi Suzuki that produced the well-known "Suzuki Violin" violins. But after the war the company was split up into the Suzuki Violin Company (now Kiso Suzuki Violin Company) and Suzuki Violin Manufacturing Company (now Nagoya Suzuki Violin Company). And there the relationship ended.)

Model #'s

Re: the serial number: on many of the models the first one or two numbers in the serial number stands for the year in which it was manufactured; from the 60’s to the 80’s. I have never seen a definite 1950's guitar yet, mainly because I don't know enough about them yet.The other prefixes/suffixes ...W, C, S, VS, D, G, A, T, R, O, J...may follow other common meanings.
W = Western model
F= Folk Model
C= Cutaway
E=Electronics
K=?
S=Spruce (top)
VS= Violin Sunburst color
D=Dreadnaught shape
G=Grand Concert shape for classicals; some 'G' acoustics however had a Gallagher type headstock
A=?
T=? Takeharu sometimes
R=?
O=?
J=Jumbo shape
(if you can help with understanding their system, please DO write me at suzukiguitars@gmail.com....Thanks!)

Questions...
"I have a Suzuki, but it doesn't sound as good as I had hoped for..."
If you have a Suzuki that doesn't sound so great...
Not every Suzuki guitar is equal to an "inheritance" guitar.
But, some are.
Some may just require a setup to sound better; others may be too heavily built or have intonation problems (personal experience with some steel strings built by Kiso). BUT, it's possible to fix some of these problems and have your guitar sound a lot better.
Also, different years, different labels (jobbers?), and whether the guitar was intended for export or for Japan - seems to have made a difference.

Suzuki Construction...

Some woods used were Linden, Rosewood, Maple, Ovangkol, and Nato. Spruce and Cedar were used for the tops – usually laminated for the overseas market, as laminates don’t readily crack, but some models are solid tops. There is a popular theory about solid tops sounding better, but there is disagreement on this matter by some well-respected people. See the website ... http://www.liutaiomottola.com/myth/quartersawn.htm

Suzuki laminates were generally very good quality, and many people feel their guitars, even though laminated, sound better than many solid tops. Suzuki craftsmanship surely played a role in the sound too.

The numbering system is usually tied in with the price. An F100 would have been 10,000 yen, an F130 would have been 13,000 yen, an W250 would have been 25,000 yen and so on. But some models are lower numbers yet very ornamented, so it doesn’t seem like this always holds true. (see the F35 scrollwork on the fretboard).

One interesting thing that stands out is the change in labels. If you’ll notice, there were a few different labels. Were there different divisions or contract manufacturers? I don’t know at this time.

There are thousands of players worldwide who would like to know more about their Kiso Suzuki guitar. It's a common story that when someone has G.A.S (Guitar Acquisition Syndrome) and needs to let a guitar or two go, the Suzuki is the one that stays behind and can't be replaced. If you own a Kiso Suzuki guitar - congratulations on what you probably already know - that you own a well-crafted and good sounding instrument. One that is still undervalued in the opinion of many players. Maybe you'll hang on to it and see that there is something special about many of their instruments. In any case, as Tetsu said..."Have a nice life with Suzuki guitar.”